As promised an update to my appointment this morning.
I was there with three other people. It was basically an induction. Introducing us to PeopleServe , how long were going to be on the flexible new deal and how many weeks we will be at their office.
So twenty weeks at their office and in total fifty-two weeks on Stage 1 of the Flexible New Deal. Hopefully I won’t have too long to wait before a job comes along.
My next appointment is on Thursday 29th April at 12.30.
i went for the peopleserve induction with 2 others, no one else showed. I thought the induction wasnt that bad and what he said sounded good, and they booked me in for thursday to see one of the male caseworkers. when i went on thursday my first real appointment, i was seen by a 20 something with a chip on her shoulder bigger than the eiffel tower, and everything went downhill from then on, i dont call women biatches but she was the biggest, according to her i hadnt done the joblog right, i filled the forms in who i wanted to work for, according to her i hadnt done that right, at that moment i just got the distinct feeling for the remainder of the hour she was going to bully me and i was proved right.
the remainder of the interview was her ranting at me, and i eventually switched off listening. she then called me a liar, that i wasnt disabled and there was nothing wrong with me, this really annoyed me, i have the fatal disease lupus and ive had it since 1992. she then kept bullying me, and when i wasnt giving in, i was then frog marched into a managers office, another woman, i then had the pair of them bullying me into what they call an ideal job for me, working in a care home wiping pensioners backsides, so i refused there is no way on earth im doing that job. So know i have to see my doctor and get him to provide evidence to what is wrong me, just to prove that im not a liar.
i've also contacted the jobcentre who employ peopleserve as they are not keeping to the new deal, peopleserves idea is they have a job on the books, doesnt matter what it is, your taking it. and if you refuse you get their favourite line ” no money then”. i live in cannock staffordshire, and i was told at induction that we were guinea pigs this has never been done before, i know the government have to cut the welfare i just feel treating people like dirt, calling people liars, bullying, blackmail, insults is not the way to go. im waiting know to see what happens to me next, but there is no way im accepting an apology off that biatch, and there is no way im seeing her again
That's a pity about the way you were treated it shows ignorance on the part of the person who saw you with regards to Lupus. However under the proposed welfare reforms, Ian Ducan Smith has said that if there is a job available you should take it. I agree with what he says. I don't agree with the way you were treated though.
I think what you will find is the type of jobs as they call them that they have on their books are what everyone has rejected. ive been doing a bit of my own research what they claim new deal is about i.e. there positive and helpful, discuss what you need to find work, the action plan, treat you fairly, match your skills and experience with local employers, and help you with experience in the work sector of your choice.
what i found when i went for my appointment last week was none of this, i was bullied into something i didnt want, with not enough hours, i would have had to sign off unemployment for £94.88 net, which is £20 less than what i get at the moment. but hey she made the phone call anyway only to be told hes got to many to interview. I found most of the vacancies they had were for 16 hours which is no good to me i need 25 hours just to pay the bills, i have retail experience, im a level 3, the jobcentre have agreed with me its the way for me to go as i wouldnt really need re-training. but to her no, she thinks i should work in a care home, a job ive never done before, i dont have the skills or experience in but no way was i offered an action plan, or any help in the work sector of my choice.
Also you might find interesting she told me , they cannot help anyone there who is unemployed unless they already have a job, which sort of makes it a joke, why are we there if you cannot help us?
And if you had a job, you wouldnt be referred in the first place?
And as for the placements for me in retail, there all in charity shops, i have a full resume, and do i really want to remove legal secretary to replace it with worked 4 weeks in a charity shop.
Like i told my husband i thought they were offering help to get good quality jobs, not dead end jobs which we can be taken advantage of and used like slaves, which is something else i have read happened at this place. I can find my own dead end job washing up in a restaurant.
I have already made a plan i intend to get out of peopleserve as quick as i can, as they dont have good quality vacancies on offer, im sure there are plenty of dead end jobs out there i can do, till something better comes along.
I agree with the policy of getting people back to work, but i dont agree with the heavy hand at the first stage, i mean this is my first appointment, i was told at the induction the heavy hand doesnt come till stage 3. i haven' t been given opportunity to send spec letters out or get replies back, I mean i havent even had my CV checked, adivce on cover letters, travel routes, in work assessments, nothing. Okay get heavy after 2 weeks thats okay, i just feel im being made a scapegoat and slandering me and calling me a liar, has just made the relationship between us, untenable. And i find im between a rock and a hard place I cant leave, and i dont want to go back to be bullied.
this scheme is no different to all the others that have been tried over the years, and failed.
I can't see how they expect us to go for interviews, if they cut our money off, how is that supposed to work, as detailed on bbc news this morning.
The way in which you were treated was awful, yes. However, at the end of the day a job is a job, and I hope Iain Duncan smith presses on with these welfare reforms as we have too many people being picky about which jobs they take. Take myself for example, I would prefer an IT job. Well, I finally got a job, NOT an IT job, but a job, which I have to say I HATE. I am already looking for another job while carrying out a job that I don't like so much, but at least I'm working and not scrounging off the state. Sorry, but you need to accept any job offer that comes along regardless of what it is, as long as you are capable of doing it.
The way in which you were treated was awful, yes. However, at the end of the day a job is a job, and I hope Iain Duncan smith presses on with these welfare reforms as we have too many people being picky about which jobs they take. Take myself for example, I would prefer an IT job. Well, I finally got a job, NOT an IT job, but a job, which I have to say I HATE. I am already looking for another job while carrying out a job that I don't like so much, but at least I'm working and not scrounging off the state. Sorry, but you need to accept any job offer that comes along regardless of what it is, as long as you are capable of doing it.
i do not like it their they are bullies a waste of time
Peopleserve have been asking me to attend as much as three times a week. First they asked me if I wanted to do a “telephone technique” session. I told them it would not be necessary for me personally since I already know how to speak on the phone to employers, I have done it enough times. After asking me and me refusing, they then told me I “must” attend the session, so I did.
Just one problem with this three times a week… they are breaking their own contract, which is illegal.
Look at the top of the sheet both the customer and the advisor signs – that sheet clearly states on it “Frequency of Contact: Once a fortnight”.
If these muppets get my back anymore about this, I am just going to take them to court. All I need to prove my frequency of contact should be once every two weeks is the SIGNED paperwork THEY CREATED THEMSELVES that proves this.
In court, it is an open and shut case.
Prosecutor: “This guy was told to attend Peopleserve on this day, this day and this day (all in the same 7 day period”
Me: “Here is the signed paperwork proving you wrong.”
Case closed. I am on the verge of suing them. They have never even given me ANYTHING at all that states any of their rules! I don’t even know what their rules are! All I know is they sign a sheet of paper that I also sign myself (so it is legally binding) and they are breaking that agreement. Every time they ask you to attend more often than once a fortnight, they are breaking the contract that you have BOTH signed.
I have read all you notes, and as a ex peopleserve employee, i am completely shocked, you would only have to attend every 2 weeks with your case worker, NOT 3 times a week unless it was a workshop(which is not with your case worker) there was none of this bullying at all, and they would no way make you do something that you was not happy about, yes staff can have there bad days aswell as everybody else, but they would never cross the line, and in all your notes none of you have mentioned wheather you made an official complaint,which makes me question if any of this true, and maybe you are all to lazy and have excuse after excuse
I don’t have any personal experience of Peopleserve but I do have been a client of A4e, Ingeus and JHP Employability.
And A4e and JHP are both equally crap, so is Ingeus for that matter but at least you get treated a lot better by Ingeus
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goverment work programmes are a wast of time still no work after 8 months jhp employability longford road cannock staffs im beaning going from one to another all the time the job centre is also a waste of time we all would be better off in prison im not happy as you can proberly tell
Thats nothing I have had an on going problem with Work Directions Now known as INGEUS and since I made complaint about there staff,they have made my life hell and some of the managemnet staff at DWP have closed my complaint to coverup.,
Thankfully,Im now in talks with lawyers who are now putting my case together to sue INGEUS and also the DWP.
I cant wait.
The staff at Ingeus are 2 weeks trained “so called EXPERT ADVISORS” and they are usless,
This company has made millions for doing nothing its that bad they cant even keep their own staff.
SHAME ON THEM THEY ARE A DISGRACE.
If anyone else has had problems with this company tell me now
i do agree with every think you say mike hunter goverment proggrams are awast of time paul harvey